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		<title>By: GiGi</title>
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		<description>My sister died because of illegal alien drug dealers.  As a Catholic, I am right on board with Michelle Malkin - the Catholic Church should stick to religion not
a poster child for illegal aliens. Malkin for President.</description>
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a poster child for illegal aliens. Malkin for President.</p>
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		<title>By: rjohnson68</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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On the February 13 edition of her nationally syndicated radio show, discussing the February 12 Black History Month event at the White House, host Laura Ingraham noted that &quot;[President Bush] welcomed [Rev.] Al Sharpton to the White House,&quot; and added: &quot;I hope they nailed down all the valuables.&quot; Ingraham then aired an audio clip of a portion of Bush&#039;s comments at the event and remarked, referring to Sharpton: &quot;I can&#039;t believe they let him through the front door there at Black History Month.&quot;

From the February 13 edition of Talk Radio Network&#039;s The Laura Ingraham Program: 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://mediamatters.org/items/200802130013&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Media Matter - Laura Ingraham&lt;/a&gt;



On the March 21 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, while discussing Sen. Barack Obama&#039;s handling of the controversy surrounding remarks by his former pastor, Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright, Rush Limbaugh asserted that, &quot;in dealing with this, [Obama] has thrown his white grandmother under the bus, and then, yesterday [March 20], drove the bus backwards and ran over her, where he threw her under the bus, by calling her a typical white woman.&quot; He added: &quot;[I]t is clear -- now, this is the stuff, this is the part that might bother some of you. It is clear that Senator Obama has disowned his white half, that he&#039;s decided he&#039;s got to go all in on the black side.&quot; Limbaugh had earlier said: &quot;[Y]ou know, opening these race wounds like this, taking us back 30, 40 years, making it look like no progress has been made -- what Barack Obama has done -- I&#039;m going to say something here that might offend -- or not offend -- but might maker some uncomfortable. But it is clear to me that there has been a major transformation in Senator Obama.&quot;


&lt;a href=&quot;http://mediamatters.org/items/200802130013&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Media Matter - Rush Limbaugh&lt;/a&gt;

I&#039;ve read &amp; listened to these men, who&#039;s work is considered blessed by God sadly enough. Those who support a more Liberal view of theology have equally slandered members of the church, as Malkin has, and should also be spoken against...... 

It is more unfortunate, however, that we hear this from those who profess such a Great Love of God, yet, express such Hated for His Children.




&lt;a&gt;What I Learned This Week&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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<p>On the February 13 edition of her nationally syndicated radio show, discussing the February 12 Black History Month event at the White House, host Laura Ingraham noted that &#8220;[President Bush] welcomed [Rev.] Al Sharpton to the White House,&#8221; and added: &#8220;I hope they nailed down all the valuables.&#8221; Ingraham then aired an audio clip of a portion of Bush&#8217;s comments at the event and remarked, referring to Sharpton: &#8220;I can&#8217;t believe they let him through the front door there at Black History Month.&#8221;</p>
<p>From the February 13 edition of Talk Radio Network&#8217;s The Laura Ingraham Program: </p>
<p><a href="http://mediamatters.org/items/200802130013" rel="nofollow">Media Matter &#8211; Laura Ingraham</a></p>
<p>On the March 21 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, while discussing Sen. Barack Obama&#8217;s handling of the controversy surrounding remarks by his former pastor, Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright, Rush Limbaugh asserted that, &#8220;in dealing with this, [Obama] has thrown his white grandmother under the bus, and then, yesterday [March 20], drove the bus backwards and ran over her, where he threw her under the bus, by calling her a typical white woman.&#8221; He added: &#8220;[I]t is clear &#8212; now, this is the stuff, this is the part that might bother some of you. It is clear that Senator Obama has disowned his white half, that he&#8217;s decided he&#8217;s got to go all in on the black side.&#8221; Limbaugh had earlier said: &#8220;[Y]ou know, opening these race wounds like this, taking us back 30, 40 years, making it look like no progress has been made &#8212; what Barack Obama has done &#8212; I&#8217;m going to say something here that might offend &#8212; or not offend &#8212; but might maker some uncomfortable. But it is clear to me that there has been a major transformation in Senator Obama.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://mediamatters.org/items/200802130013" rel="nofollow">Media Matter &#8211; Rush Limbaugh</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read &amp; listened to these men, who&#8217;s work is considered blessed by God sadly enough. Those who support a more Liberal view of theology have equally slandered members of the church, as Malkin has, and should also be spoken against&#8230;&#8230; </p>
<p>It is more unfortunate, however, that we hear this from those who profess such a Great Love of God, yet, express such Hated for His Children.</p>
<p><a>What I Learned This Week</a></p>
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		<title>By: rjohnson68</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rjohnson68</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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A few points here:

&quot;If she doesn’t “slander” anyone! (If she slandered people “often”, she would be off the air VERY quickly.)&quot;... I don&#039;t believe that you&#039;re being intellectually honest here. The radio is littered with the slanders and lies of Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage and yes Ingraham on a daily basis. To assert that she wouldn&#039;t be on the air if she was slanderous is not an morally honest assessment... and discouraging.

&quot;Or now Catholicism in 2008 means laying in fetal position, passively disagreeing with no one, and standing up for nothing? Jesus would never agree with such a sentiment.&quot;... 

No one has attempted to redefine the Catholic stance on issues as passive. Your approach to discussions regarding the Catholic church and how its followers Lead is unfortunately similar to that of Hate Radio personalities.... To argue from the extreme...

If someone says... &quot;I think it&#039;s going to rain&quot;, your response is &quot;So now you&#039;re going to take my right of assembly away, forcing me to go indoors because you believe it&#039;s going to rain. This only happens to Catholics. You wouldn&#039;t have forced me to move during the Clinton Administration. You&#039;re elitist! Why don&#039;t you love your country enough to respect the rights of this who simply want to stand outside?&quot;</description>
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<p>A few points here:</p>
<p>&#8220;If she doesn’t “slander” anyone! (If she slandered people “often”, she would be off the air VERY quickly.)&#8221;&#8230; I don&#8217;t believe that you&#8217;re being intellectually honest here. The radio is littered with the slanders and lies of Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage and yes Ingraham on a daily basis. To assert that she wouldn&#8217;t be on the air if she was slanderous is not an morally honest assessment&#8230; and discouraging.</p>
<p>&#8220;Or now Catholicism in 2008 means laying in fetal position, passively disagreeing with no one, and standing up for nothing? Jesus would never agree with such a sentiment.&#8221;&#8230; </p>
<p>No one has attempted to redefine the Catholic stance on issues as passive. Your approach to discussions regarding the Catholic church and how its followers Lead is unfortunately similar to that of Hate Radio personalities&#8230;. To argue from the extreme&#8230;</p>
<p>If someone says&#8230; &#8220;I think it&#8217;s going to rain&#8221;, your response is &#8220;So now you&#8217;re going to take my right of assembly away, forcing me to go indoors because you believe it&#8217;s going to rain. This only happens to Catholics. You wouldn&#8217;t have forced me to move during the Clinton Administration. You&#8217;re elitist! Why don&#8217;t you love your country enough to respect the rights of this who simply want to stand outside?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: tizzidale</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sisyphus,

The problem is that the Pope *did not* systematically undermine our immigration laws (not that those laws work - I mean, isn&#039;t that the point of the whole anti-illegal movement?).  Malkin and Tancredo (et. al.) took the Pope&#039;s visit as an opportunity to bash perceived &lt;i&gt;liberal&lt;/i&gt; tendencies in the Catholic Church here in America.  My Gospel tells me that I should visit those in prison. And I&#039;m assuming not just those who are actually innocent.</description>
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<p>The problem is that the Pope *did not* systematically undermine our immigration laws (not that those laws work &#8211; I mean, isn&#8217;t that the point of the whole anti-illegal movement?).  Malkin and Tancredo (et. al.) took the Pope&#8217;s visit as an opportunity to bash perceived <i>liberal</i> tendencies in the Catholic Church here in America.  My Gospel tells me that I should visit those in prison. And I&#8217;m assuming not just those who are actually innocent.</p>
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		<title>By: tsfiles</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt; &quot;i listen to Ms. Ingraham each morning (DC Metro Area/AM 570) and often hear her slander persons on the Left, assigning them a position of Godlessness and possessing the intent to corrupt the minds of children and society. She is one of many who nurture a climate of “Us Against Them” and her practices are far from the Catholicism that she claims.&quot; &lt;/b&gt; 

I listen to Ingraham regularly and she is excellent. She doesn&#039;t &quot;slander&quot; anyone! (If she slandered people &quot;often&quot;, she would be off the air VERY quickly.) Some of the people with whom she disagrees ARE Godless and it&#039;s not wrong to say so. 

Or now Catholicism in 2008 means laying in fetal position, passively disagreeing with no one, and standing up for nothing? Jesus would never agree with such a sentiment.

~ Sisyphus, http://www.tsfiles.wordpress.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b> &#8220;i listen to Ms. Ingraham each morning (DC Metro Area/AM 570) and often hear her slander persons on the Left, assigning them a position of Godlessness and possessing the intent to corrupt the minds of children and society. She is one of many who nurture a climate of “Us Against Them” and her practices are far from the Catholicism that she claims.&#8221; </b> </p>
<p>I listen to Ingraham regularly and she is excellent. She doesn&#8217;t &#8220;slander&#8221; anyone! (If she slandered people &#8220;often&#8221;, she would be off the air VERY quickly.) Some of the people with whom she disagrees ARE Godless and it&#8217;s not wrong to say so. </p>
<p>Or now Catholicism in 2008 means laying in fetal position, passively disagreeing with no one, and standing up for nothing? Jesus would never agree with such a sentiment.</p>
<p>~ Sisyphus, <a href="http://www.tsfiles.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.tsfiles.wordpress.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: tsfiles</title>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt; &quot;Forget her Catholicism . . . she’ll sell the Pope down the river, call him an elitist, if, God-forbid, he expresses a desire to care for those who do immigrate to America (yes, illegally!).&quot; &lt;/b&gt;

Disagreement with the Pope is hardly &quot;selling&quot; him down a river. 

No one suggests that immigrants NOT be helped during a trying time. The U.S. immigration policy is among the most generous and inviting in the world. The United States is, however, very much entitled to require that those immigrants enter the country legally. 

Yes, one can remain fully Catholic while acknowledging and respecting immigration law. Apparently you and those who disagree with Malkin prefer to hear no immigration law, see no immigration law, speak no immigration law.

That this is even a controversy is mind boggling. 

Malkin is absolutely right in her observation that 

&lt;b&gt; &quot;It’s one thing to show compassion to legal immigrants, legitimate refugees and asylees, and those abused and mistreated by smugglers. It’s quite another to support the systematic undermining of an orderly immigration and entrance system that imposes limits, eligibility requirements, criminal background checks, medical screening, and a commitment to assimilation. There is nothing Christian about facilitating illicit, illegal activity...&quot; &lt;/b&gt;

Quite right. And if you seek filter all this through Catholicism, the evangelist Mark records Jesus saying, &quot;Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar&#039;s, and to God the things that are God&#039;s.&quot; 

http://bible.cc/mark/12-17.htm

One CAN help immigrants while simultaneously respecting immigration law.

~ Sisyphus, proud child of LEGAL immigrants, www.tsfiles.wordpress.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b> &#8220;Forget her Catholicism . . . she’ll sell the Pope down the river, call him an elitist, if, God-forbid, he expresses a desire to care for those who do immigrate to America (yes, illegally!).&#8221; </b></p>
<p>Disagreement with the Pope is hardly &#8220;selling&#8221; him down a river. </p>
<p>No one suggests that immigrants NOT be helped during a trying time. The U.S. immigration policy is among the most generous and inviting in the world. The United States is, however, very much entitled to require that those immigrants enter the country legally. </p>
<p>Yes, one can remain fully Catholic while acknowledging and respecting immigration law. Apparently you and those who disagree with Malkin prefer to hear no immigration law, see no immigration law, speak no immigration law.</p>
<p>That this is even a controversy is mind boggling. </p>
<p>Malkin is absolutely right in her observation that </p>
<p><b> &#8220;It’s one thing to show compassion to legal immigrants, legitimate refugees and asylees, and those abused and mistreated by smugglers. It’s quite another to support the systematic undermining of an orderly immigration and entrance system that imposes limits, eligibility requirements, criminal background checks, medical screening, and a commitment to assimilation. There is nothing Christian about facilitating illicit, illegal activity&#8230;&#8221; </b></p>
<p>Quite right. And if you seek filter all this through Catholicism, the evangelist Mark records Jesus saying, &#8220;Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar&#8217;s, and to God the things that are God&#8217;s.&#8221; </p>
<p><a href="http://bible.cc/mark/12-17.htm" rel="nofollow">http://bible.cc/mark/12-17.htm</a></p>
<p>One CAN help immigrants while simultaneously respecting immigration law.</p>
<p>~ Sisyphus, proud child of LEGAL immigrants, <a href="http://www.tsfiles.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.tsfiles.wordpress.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: rjohnson68</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 03:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ingraham maligns those with whom she doesn&#039;t agree routinely. i listen to Ms. Ingraham each morning (DC Metro Area/AM 570) and often hear her slander persons on the Left, assigning them a position of Godlessness and possessing the intent to corrupt the minds of children and society. She is one of many who nurture a climate of &quot;Us Against Them&quot; and her practices are far from the Catholicism that she claims.

Whether a &quot;recent convert&quot; or life-long Catholic, all persons of faith who malign the children of God with Rhetoric that is inflammatory, false and demeaning., are wrong. Ms Ingraham&#039;s grouping with Hannity, Limbaugh, Savage, Levin and others is quite fair, as she assumes a just position to attack those with whom she doesn&#039;t agree and attributes her ill will to a faith in God.


What I Learned This Week  (http://whatilearnedthisweek.wordpress.com)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ingraham maligns those with whom she doesn&#8217;t agree routinely. i listen to Ms. Ingraham each morning (DC Metro Area/AM 570) and often hear her slander persons on the Left, assigning them a position of Godlessness and possessing the intent to corrupt the minds of children and society. She is one of many who nurture a climate of &#8220;Us Against Them&#8221; and her practices are far from the Catholicism that she claims.</p>
<p>Whether a &#8220;recent convert&#8221; or life-long Catholic, all persons of faith who malign the children of God with Rhetoric that is inflammatory, false and demeaning., are wrong. Ms Ingraham&#8217;s grouping with Hannity, Limbaugh, Savage, Levin and others is quite fair, as she assumes a just position to attack those with whom she doesn&#8217;t agree and attributes her ill will to a faith in God.</p>
<p>What I Learned This Week  (<a href="http://whatilearnedthisweek.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://whatilearnedthisweek.wordpress.com</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: rjohnson68</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 03:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ingraham maligns those with whom she doesn&#039;t agree routinely. i listen to Ms. Ingraham each morning (DC Metro Area/AM 570) and often hear her slander persons on the Left, assigning them a position of Godlessness and possessing the intent to corrupt the minds of children and society. She is one of many who nurture a climate of &quot;Us Against Them&quot; and her practices are far from the Catholicism that she claims.

Whether a &quot;recent convert&quot; or life-long Catholic, all persons of faith who malign the children of God with Rhetoric that is inflammatory, false and demeaning., are wrong. Ms Ingraham&#039;s grouping with Hannity, Limbaugh, Savage, Levin and others is quite fair, as she assumes a just position to attack those with whom she doesn&#039;t agree and attributes her ill will to a faith in God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ingraham maligns those with whom she doesn&#8217;t agree routinely. i listen to Ms. Ingraham each morning (DC Metro Area/AM 570) and often hear her slander persons on the Left, assigning them a position of Godlessness and possessing the intent to corrupt the minds of children and society. She is one of many who nurture a climate of &#8220;Us Against Them&#8221; and her practices are far from the Catholicism that she claims.</p>
<p>Whether a &#8220;recent convert&#8221; or life-long Catholic, all persons of faith who malign the children of God with Rhetoric that is inflammatory, false and demeaning., are wrong. Ms Ingraham&#8217;s grouping with Hannity, Limbaugh, Savage, Levin and others is quite fair, as she assumes a just position to attack those with whom she doesn&#8217;t agree and attributes her ill will to a faith in God.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Lyons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Lyons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You certainly have a point.</description>
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